Comments on: Has the expiry date on Agile just been set? (CLARIFICATION) http://nutrun.com/weblog/has-the-expiry-date-on-agile-just-been-set-clarification/ nutrun Thu, 04 Dec 2008 05:46:18 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: Jason Yip http://nutrun.com/weblog/has-the-expiry-date-on-agile-just-been-set-clarification/#comment-93 Jason Yip Thu, 15 Jun 2006 22:28:06 +0000 http://new-site.nutrun.com/?p=23#comment-93 I wouldn't even say Lean is an evolution of Agile. Lean has been around longer than Agile. Lean, TOC, context-driven testing, HCI, etc. are all useful things to inject into the community that identifies itself as "Agile". What Roy's talking about is pretty much that the *idea* of "Agile" is no longer a differentiator. I would say that the execution of "Agile" will always be. In manufacturing circles, "Lean" is a buzzword. Check the Evolving Excellence blog entries on bankrupt Shingo Prize winners. This doesn't mean there aren't important and interesting things to take from Lean and incorporate into what we do and how we describe what we do. I wouldn’t even say Lean is an evolution of Agile. Lean has been around longer than Agile. Lean, TOC, context-driven testing, HCI, etc. are all useful things to inject into the community that identifies itself as “Agile”.

What Roy’s talking about is pretty much that the *idea* of “Agile” is no longer a differentiator. I would say that the execution of “Agile” will always be. In manufacturing circles, “Lean” is a buzzword. Check the Evolving Excellence blog entries on bankrupt Shingo Prize winners. This doesn’t mean there aren’t important and interesting things to take from Lean and incorporate into what we do and how we describe what we do.

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