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		<title>By: Sarah Taraporewalla&#8217;s Technical Ramblings &#187; Are types of testing important?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah Taraporewalla&#8217;s Technical Ramblings &#187; Are types of testing important?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 20:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] with the questioning, because I would point them in the direction of George Malamidis&#8217;s work around for fast unit tests. My point is that there maybe a better solution than separating the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Seth Thomas Rasmussen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seth Thomas Rasmussen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 01:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An approach I&#039;ve enjoyed thus far is to use a library like Mocha to do things like mock calls to the database or have my controller pretend it has a user logged in.</description>
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		<title>By: Dan Manges</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Manges</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 02:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was being pretentious with the book references.  Even though separating the business logic from the persistence is no longer the ActiveRecord pattern, the benefit of having a faster suite of tests is nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was being pretentious with the book references.  Even though separating the business logic from the persistence is no longer the ActiveRecord pattern, the benefit of having a faster suite of tests is nice.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Manges</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Manges</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 22:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saying &quot;I prefer to separate the business from the data access layers&quot; is tantamount to saying &quot;I prefer not to use the ActiveRecord pattern.&quot;    Refer to the three chapters (17, 18, and 19) completely devoted to ActiveRecord in Agile Web Development with Rails (2nd edition) (AWDWR) (Thomas et al).  So if you prefer that kind of separation, something like Og would be more appropriate.  For further discussion I refer you to page 160 of Pattern of Enterprise Application Architecture (POEAA) (Fowler et al).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saying &#8220;I prefer to separate the business from the data access layers&#8221; is tantamount to saying &#8220;I prefer not to use the ActiveRecord pattern.&#8221;    Refer to the three chapters (17, 18, and 19) completely devoted to ActiveRecord in Agile Web Development with Rails (2nd edition) (AWDWR) (Thomas et al).  So if you prefer that kind of separation, something like Og would be more appropriate.  For further discussion I refer you to page 160 of Pattern of Enterprise Application Architecture (POEAA) (Fowler et al).</p>
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		<title>By: Stephan Schmidt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephan Schmidt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 04:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good workaround. The root cause is that Rails calls tests unit tests when in fact - because of their database dependency - they are not unit tests but component or subsystem tests. Which, as far as I can tell, cannot easily be changed because ActiveRecord builds the model from a database, contrary to e.g. Grails, which defines the model in code.

Peace
-stephan

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good workaround. The root cause is that Rails calls tests unit tests when in fact &#8211; because of their database dependency &#8211; they are not unit tests but component or subsystem tests. Which, as far as I can tell, cannot easily be changed because ActiveRecord builds the model from a database, contrary to e.g. Grails, which defines the model in code.</p>
<p>Peace<br />
-stephan</p>
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