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	<title>Comments on: You are not a &#8216;real&#8217; Java developer until&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: mnsharif</title>
		<link>http://nutrun.com/weblog/you-are-not-a-real-java-developer-until/#comment-74</link>
		<dc:creator>mnsharif</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 21:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you are not a real java developer if you see this article and you leave the webpage before reading it in entirety with all 56 replies that follow ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you are not a real java developer if you see this article and you leave the webpage before reading it in entirety with all 56 replies that follow <img src='http://nutrun.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Tyrone Hed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyrone Hed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 13:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You're not a real Java developer until you experience the exquisite agony of going back to hand-coding JDBC calls after having used Hibernate.

You're not a real Java developer until you join a shop that--horrors--puts all their JDBC calls INSIDE THE JSP (and they don't understand why that is an ABOMINATION).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re not a real Java developer until you experience the exquisite agony of going back to hand-coding JDBC calls after having used Hibernate.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re not a real Java developer until you join a shop that&#8211;horrors&#8211;puts all their JDBC calls INSIDE THE JSP (and they don&#8217;t understand why that is an ABOMINATION).</p>
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		<title>By: Jakub Hegenbart</title>
		<link>http://nutrun.com/weblog/you-are-not-a-real-java-developer-until/#comment-71</link>
		<dc:creator>Jakub Hegenbart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 11:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, indentation gone wrong, I forgot that this thing in front of me uses HTML. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, indentation gone wrong, I forgot that this thing in front of me uses HTML. <img src='http://nutrun.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Jakub Hegenbart</title>
		<link>http://nutrun.com/weblog/you-are-not-a-real-java-developer-until/#comment-70</link>
		<dc:creator>Jakub Hegenbart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 11:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#38;gt; Ruby (or perl, or python, or PHP) is far slower than Java. The real question we have to ask is : what to we want ? It seems we don’t really know.

There's always Common Lisp at hand, you know… ;-) Not exactly clean (in some ways just like C++, by the same token), but stable, mature, standardized, often much faster and much more rich in features.

(with-open-file (stream path)
  (let* ((len (file-length stream))
         (data (make-string len)))
    (read-sequence data stream)))

This should be the fastest way ever. ;-) Of course, it's a shame there isn't a utility function yet. But then, C++ doesn't exactly shine wr/t standard libraries, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#38;gt; Ruby (or perl, or python, or PHP) is far slower than Java. The real question we have to ask is : what to we want ? It seems we don’t really know.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s always Common Lisp at hand, you know… <img src='http://nutrun.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> Not exactly clean (in some ways just like C++, by the same token), but stable, mature, standardized, often much faster and much more rich in features.</p>
<p>(with-open-file (stream path)<br />
  (let* ((len (file-length stream))<br />
         (data (make-string len)))<br />
    (read-sequence data stream)))</p>
<p>This should be the fastest way ever. <img src='http://nutrun.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> Of course, it&#8217;s a shame there isn&#8217;t a utility function yet. But then, C++ doesn&#8217;t exactly shine wr/t standard libraries, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Jakub Hegenbart</title>
		<link>http://nutrun.com/weblog/you-are-not-a-real-java-developer-until/#comment-69</link>
		<dc:creator>Jakub Hegenbart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 10:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#38;gt; Three lines? In python:

&#38;gt; data = file(’file.txt’, ‘r’).readLines()

&#38;gt; data is now an array of lines from file.txt

&#38;gt; Anything more complex is just unnecessary…

Even worse, here's Ruby: &#38;gt;/]]]

a = `cat file.txt`

&#38;gt; I don’t believe that will close the file.
&#38;gt; This has bitten me at least once.

It will. Python uses refcounting and after the refcount drops to zero, the object will automatically close the file.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#38;gt; Three lines? In python:</p>
<p>&#38;gt; data = file(’file.txt’, ‘r’).readLines()</p>
<p>&#38;gt; data is now an array of lines from file.txt</p>
<p>&#38;gt; Anything more complex is just unnecessary…</p>
<p>Even worse, here&#8217;s Ruby: &#38;gt;/]]]</p>
<p>a = `cat file.txt`</p>
<p>&#38;gt; I don’t believe that will close the file.<br />
&#38;gt; This has bitten me at least once.</p>
<p>It will. Python uses refcounting and after the refcount drops to zero, the object will automatically close the file.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Bradbury</title>
		<link>http://nutrun.com/weblog/you-are-not-a-real-java-developer-until/#comment-67</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Bradbury</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 12:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Guys

My company is looking for a Senior Java developer to work in a team of 11 in Oxfordshire. Contact details are on the website www.xit2.com.
Anyone interested? Get in touch, email your CV to info@xit2.com. c35-40K what are you waiting for?!  Andrew</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Guys</p>
<p>My company is looking for a Senior Java developer to work in a team of 11 in Oxfordshire. Contact details are on the website <a href="http://www.xit2.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.xit2.com</a>.<br />
Anyone interested? Get in touch, email your CV to <a href="mailto:info@xit2.com">info@xit2.com</a>. c35-40K what are you waiting for?!  Andrew</p>
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		<title>By: robc</title>
		<link>http://nutrun.com/weblog/you-are-not-a-real-java-developer-until/#comment-68</link>
		<dc:creator>robc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 22:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...until you look out the window and see the sun rising and smell the fresh coffee, then realize you are still at the office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;until you look out the window and see the sun rising and smell the fresh coffee, then realize you are still at the office.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Bernard</title>
		<link>http://nutrun.com/weblog/you-are-not-a-real-java-developer-until/#comment-72</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Bernard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Dec 2006 16:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You're not a real Java programmer unless despite all the complaints you still love to program in Java because you know that you can throw something complex together 5-10x faster than most other languages, with all the necessary error checking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re not a real Java programmer unless despite all the complaints you still love to program in Java because you know that you can throw something complex together 5-10x faster than most other languages, with all the necessary error checking.</p>
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		<title>By: Taylor Gautier</title>
		<link>http://nutrun.com/weblog/you-are-not-a-real-java-developer-until/#comment-66</link>
		<dc:creator>Taylor Gautier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Oct 2006 06:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you're not a real programmer until you can write the code needed to read a url using java.net without looking it up</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you&#8217;re not a real programmer until you can write the code needed to read a url using java.net without looking it up</p>
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		<title>By: Clifton Santiago</title>
		<link>http://nutrun.com/weblog/you-are-not-a-real-java-developer-until/#comment-65</link>
		<dc:creator>Clifton Santiago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2006 20:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>until you make your own pathetic attempt to copy bileblog</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>until you make your own pathetic attempt to copy bileblog</p>
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